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'CHINESE GO HOME'


break time: Chinese workers take a break from work in Port of Spain recently.-Photo: Roberto Codallo

Stop giving the Chinese contracts. Time to send them back home.

This was the main condition laid down yesterday by local contractor Emile Elias, as he argued forcefully that Prime Minister Patrick Manning’s declaration of intent on Monday, to work with the local construction industry, must be followed by tangible action.

Speaking at a news conference at his NH International Construction (NHIC) office at Long Circular, St James, yesterday, Elias said: ’Actions are louder than words. If you are serious about correcting the mistakes of the past, in the use of foreign contractors, start by ending this vendetta against NHIC, admit the Cleaver Heights project is a first class project, stop attacking local contractors and cancel the contract on Maracas Bay for Chinese workers to put sand on our beach.

’Use that money instead to build schools, to build police stations and to build more houses ... health facilities. These are the priorities. Maracas Bay is not a priority and I rue the day that I would have to go there and watch Chinese people pushing wheelbarrows ... because if you want to stimulate the economy, stimulate our economy, not the Chinese economy by giving work to Chinese contractors, I am advised, at a higher price.’

Elias stated that Manning must demonstrate by deeds, not by words, a genuine interest in the development of locals and nationals and not Chinese workers, ’thousands of whom are in our country when our people cannot find work’.

On Manning’s statement that the battle between state-owned Urban Development Company of Trinidad and Tobago (UDeCOTT) and local contractors erupted because UDeCOTT was trying to bring positive change to the construction industry, Elias said it was shameless for the Prime Minister to continue to defend UDeCOTT in the face of sworn testimony and evidence that have been placed before the Commission of Enquiry.

’Shameless! He has invested political capital he no longer has in this useless exercise (of defending UDeCOTT),’ Elias declared.

Elias said he was not aware of the practices in the local construction industry which provoked concerns. However, he said if there are problems, the industry could fix them.

’Bringing Chinese contractors to make a mess of the Centre for Non-Performing Arts, the Social Development towers, ... to make a mess of every project they have done in this country, with huge cost overruns... is not the answer,’ he declared.

He added that the Chinese were so smart, they were now using Western names for their companies, such as Times Construction, which is building the Chaguanas Administrative Complex.

’The only thing the Chinese could teach me is how they manage to go into a foreign country where they can’t speak the language, and invade the political network to the point where nationals are being denigrated and deprived of work, and they could walk in with limitless workers, waive the work permit laws, break the health and safety laws, break the PAYE and tax laws... and be immune? Who is their Godfather?’ Elias asked.

’And what kind of priorities this country has, when in view of a $12 billion revenue shortfall, Government would decide to refurbish Maracas Bay; when for six years it has been planning to build four primary schools in Rosehill, in Belmont, in Paramin and in Point Cumana and these four schools are waiting for $133 million to finance them, but yet one quarter of a billion dollars could go to fix Maracas Bay? And you bringing Chinese (to do the Maracas Bay job)?’

’That has to be political madness,’ he asserted, adding: ’That was only two weeks ago (that Government announced the Maracas Bay contract ). So when did this rush of blood to Mr Manning’s head come, where he suddenly wants to make friends with local contractors again, before or after that Maracas Bay award?

’Cancel that award, tell the Chinese to go (back) home.’

Head of the Joint Consultative Council, Winston Riley, who was also at the press conference, said the last time Manning wanted dialogue with the local contractors, they placed a proposal before him for the construction of police and fire stations. He stated that the JCC had said it would put its head on the block for local contractors getting these contracts. He said two years have passed and since then, local contractors who had designed projects before, had them taken away. Furthermore, the JCC subsequently learnt that the 19 police and fire stations were all awarded to foreign firms, he said. Shaking his head, Riley said he had stopped trying to understand what was going on.


 Comments: 'CHINESE GO HOME'
Yeah right! Posted: 2009-08-26 11:35:00 PM
you think we have workers in trinidad who would do what they are doing?, all we think about here is mas and rum.......
Re: Yeah right! Posted: 2009-08-27 09:23:00 AM
So right couldn't have put it better myself
do what?? Posted: 2009-08-27 00:08:00 AM
refurbish the beach?? a beach?? Beach must be a school or hospital or something directly related to the betterment of T&T's citizens. if is atleast the ever failing road leading to the beach claiming lives as it goes, i might agree a little bit. So many primary concerns JOBS being in the top 3, so stop giving away money to people that won't even spend half of it back into TT's economy.
Re: do what?? Posted: 2009-08-27 3:43:00 PM
Why fix the beach when there is so much crimes and people can't use the beach as regularly? There are lots of other areas that need attention: Controlling crimes, schools, healthcare, education, etc. But in any case, Trinis are waaaayyyyy..... too lazy, no wonder the Chinese are given the contracts. Little contracts will soon creep up into BIG contracts. Now why are the Trinis grumbling?
Chinese go home Posted: 2009-08-27 00:12:00 AM
As a decendant of a chinese settler who came to Trinidad,can not support this call they work hard and do a good job
the chinese Posted: 2009-08-27 01:33:00 AM
every where in the world you have people building other nations trinidad is no difference.we as a people SHOULD watch and learn how to be more efficent.and get off this pardner mentality that is the norm in T&T SERIOUSLY
is about time somebody talk about it! Posted: 2009-08-26 10:05:00 PM
How are these foreign contractors beneficial to our nation? with limited oversight and zero accountability we are setting up ourselves for certain disaster in the construction sector. "Who is their Godfather?", the man is right for asking!
agree but.... Posted: 2009-08-27 00:54:00 AM
I agree that the chinese should go home. time for TnT nationals to get down to the work not waste time and fiddle around. Get serious nations maybe all the bad boys in POS and all the environs could learn a trade and actually work and stop complaining of no job.
Priorities Posted: 2009-08-27 02:14:00 AM
Should spend some money and implement procedures to allow citizen to get their passport in a reasonable time...come on- over a year to get an appointment, then another 4 months to actually get the passport...these instances, it really confirm that we are living in a third world country.....soo sad!!
Chinese go home Posted: 2009-08-26 10:21:00 PM
And where do you think the money goes Mr. Manning? Or is your mind so clouded that you do not appreciate that the money (profits) is converted into US dollars and returned to China??!! And who pays the higher price when the US dollar goes up on the local market because we have a limited supply? You have damaged your integrity again. Keep our construction industry local and think about how this would help our economy! The country would benefit from income from individual taxation, corporation taxes, VAT and most of all, you would use our local talent by EMPLOYMENT! Mr. Manning, you seem to know every recipe for DISASTER!
Chinese go home Posted: 2009-08-26 10:37:00 PM
My God! All this going on and the people of the country don't have a clue or don't know how this is going to affect us all. First of all important decisions are made by feelings and not wisdom. Now that there is a break between Mr. Elias and Mr. Manning, Mr. Elias' Company is feelings the pinch. And as a result so are the people of this nation because jobs that should have gone to locals have gone to foreigners. It's just a mess that's taking place. I wonder if everyone who came to the country has been properly vaccinated? This is very important because we don't want any outbreaks. Another thing is priorty. As much as Maracas Bay is important to tourism so are schools to educate the children which is just as important. It is better to begin at home and then go out to help others. Not help others and your people at home are starving. One affects the other. I want to encourage Mr. Riley don't give up please, there are so many people who are depending on you. I know right now it seems as though you're in a web but hold on keep at it even though it may appear that you are in a losing battle. I agree that locals should get the contracts but at the same time I am amazed at the time taken to complete a project that should take three months takes ten. Plus there ae alot of people who don't want to work even if jobs are offered to them they prefer to sit around and "lime".As I said before it is a big mess...M
No way. Posted: 2009-08-27 03:09:00 AM
Every project that has been mired in delays and cost overruns is being managed by local contractors. Nuff said.
chinese worker Posted: 2009-08-27 03:26:00 AM
chinese will do better work the local T AND T FOLKS, history show trini don't like to work, only like to party and this is the truth.
JUST DONT.. Posted: 2009-08-27 03:26:00 AM
Jūst don`t bring outside labour to do local work..how does it help unemployment.
"CHINESE GO HOME' Posted: 2009-08-27 05:10:00 AM
Contract are awarded to the Chinese for a monetary purpose.You give me contracts, and I will reward you.You scratch my back, and I will scratch yours.You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that.Wake up people, this is how business is carried out.Some one's bank account in some foreign bank is getting loaded.It is speculative at this point, but think what is going on in this world."A man's motive in life, is his own selfinterest,"That is also the nature of all politicans.They have to live after leaving office.Honesty, is not the best policy with politicans.
Chinese GO Home Posted: 2009-08-27 05:13:00 AM
This article is very interesting and every citizen of T&T who is able to read should take note. It's time we the Nation get off our botts and start looking after if not our own,but our children and our future generations interest.Look around us and see what's taking place with this gov't. It's alleged, Foreign workers are brought in to work in the Health & Works Dept's when we have trained local Contractors and Health care workers unemployed. Considering we're a Third World country, should we not be using our own skilled pple first? Why are they bringing in foreign non speaking English workers when there are so much local pple unemployed. Please do'nt tell me 'we like it so' wake up and smell the coffee it's not too late to let our voices be heard if not for us but for our children and granchildren. Very Concerned OAP'S
fox and grapes Posted: 2009-08-27 04:01:00 AM
Chinese, Korean, Grenadian, where ever the price is right, that is where you do business. Besides, these people are not really in our faces, they're merely contributing to our improving way of life.
China the New Switzerland!!!! Posted: 2009-08-27 06:02:00 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen, Kudos to Mr. Elias for discussing a subject that most of our local contractors don't have the guts to address! Money is being funnelled out of this Country at an alarming rate via the Chinese. But don't worry Christmas will be here soon, then Carnival. The fact that people are 'ketchin dey nennen', crime is out of control, floods are rampant and the police are crooked, will soon be forgotten. After all we are Trinis, we will never attain developed country status by 2020, but individually we may achieve new goals and be of great service to humanity while living in other Countries. God help us all on these beautiful Islands (T&T )!!!!
Side with Manning on that one Posted: 2009-08-27 01:03:00 AM
Sorry mister - but I side with Manning on that one. For years you couldn't deliver - and take 4 times as long to do something. The chinese rate per hour may be more - but given your efficiency - taking so long to do anything - then you turn out to be far more expensive. Not to mention - sometimes you don't even finish - which the chinese don't have an option with.. So - just because you are Trinidad - doesn't give you the right to waste our money. M
Re: Side with Manning on that one Posted: 2009-08-27 3:56:00 PM
And who are you to say that Manning is not wasting our tax dollars. What is Manning getting in return from the Chinese in providing them this contract? Do the Chinese support your business, if you have one?
Supported! Posted: 2009-08-27 05:10:00 AM
I support Elias on this issue. My only concern is whether our local construction workers would work in a disciplined manner as the Chinese do. While they may have their issues I have never heard of a construction site shut-down with them; I pass by their sites and do not see them wasting precious time. So, while I support the call, I hope it will be backed up by seriousness from local workers.
Chinese...... Posted: 2009-08-27 01:41:00 AM
Well said Emile Elias; and this situation also pertain to the health-care issue wherein the government keeps importing foreign labor. Those health-care workers cannot communicate with Trinidadians because they do not speak English, and will treat us with inferiority. I really applaud your comments on the Chinese issue, because I firmly believe it is taking us back in time; to the 1970 era. It appears that Prime Minister Manning has no regards to the long-term economic and social issues of Trinidad & Tobago, but has his own political agenda in the forefront. Whether his actions are solely due to his misguided thoughts or due to his guidance by foreign interest, the Chinese issues are cause for concern, and EVERY citizen should voice their opinion. For a moment, I thought I was the only one who saw the deterioration of Trinidad & Tobago's economic and social status; as a result of the invasion of the Chinese contractors......I trust you will continue your vigilant opposition to the issue. Trini, FL
Chinese Go Home Posted: 2009-08-27 05:52:00 AM
Elias is a mad man!! If the Chinese leave NOTHING will get done. They are the only ones with work ethics. They will work every day if need be, show me the Trinidadian worker that will do that.
re-chinese in trinidad Posted: 2009-08-27 03:14:00 AM
You have it right Mr Elias nail on the head, couldnt agree more. Who is the god father, Find him and oust him or do we already know who THEY are
Chinese Go Home Posted: 2009-08-27 07:20:00 AM
This started happening because Trinidadians and Tobagonians are too bloody lazy. The Chinese don't work for half an hour, then sit around drinking a beer and talking crap the rest of the day, and then expect to get paid for a full day's work. They work hard. The contractors are all a bunch of crooks in Trinidad and Tobago, and I should know because I have been had by them all. Let them suffer now!
Chinese go home Posted: 2009-08-27 06:06:00 AM
I am in agreement with sending the chinese back home if the local contractors will stop wasting Trinida's resources and time. I do not believe that the chinese are better but they are delivering services on time and they are hard working. This is what is needed from the locals.
I agree,is my country. Posted: 2009-08-27 02:13:00 AM
I did not read the whole thing, but just coming to reality and observing that we don't get contracts from China,and no one even dealing with us,so it's time for them to go home ,yes we would manage,is time for citizens of my country to come home and build we country back to seriousness and good living so we could move forward and focus on the people of Trinidad and Tobago,because in the US they not thinking about me and my skills,so I coming home to make a positive contribution with mines,OK,SolJa Trini.4 life.
Chinese Go Home Posted: 2009-08-27 06:26:00 AM
It is very interesting the Headline Chinese Go Home and the article. I believe the reason that they are getting these contracts is because they are willing to work and work very hard instead of liming, slacking off the job, taking too many breaks and just not wanting to work. If the lazy Trinis had the same work ethic then these contracts would not be awarded to the Chinese, may the local young people can learn from them IW
Strange Posted: 2009-08-27 07:44:00 AM
Yeah but leave it up to Trini's and it will never get done. I think you are speaking rubbish. Let the Chinese get the work done!
I support chinese labour Posted: 2009-08-27 07:53:00 AM
If you are in the building industry you will know how costly it is for Trinidad labour. As simple as a bathroom fixture, an inexperience plumber is charging $350 and he/she does it in 1/2 hour. Before you decide to have your metal roof completed make sure you have at least $40,000 for labour cost. I totally support the government when they outsource labour from abroad.
Re: I support chinese labour Posted: 2009-08-27 2:59:00 PM
I'm damn sure in the future when 'ur generation with their qualifications cannot find a job you wo'nt be saying this. You will then start cussing the PNM or Gov't in Power. Bottom line is, it's the pple in charge in all areas of work etc who has to ensure those under their watch and care must do the job.These same pple go outside and take up employment and toe the line. Why do'nt they do the same in our land?
Re: I support chinese labour Posted: 2009-08-27 4:38:00 PM
Good response......
GO Home Posted: 2009-08-27 06:37:00 AM
I totally agree with Mr. Elias, its time for the Chinese to go home to many nationals cannot get jobs because of the invasion of Chinese. It's time somebody tell Manning like it is.
Give them Elias! Posted: 2009-08-27 06:48:00 AM
Like Emile real upset with how things running within the construction industry. And you know what, he have some sound valid points and questions to back up his claims. Emile shout loud and hard, let them hear you boy and don't give up your fight. Somebody playing games within the government and hiding things. Oh wise one Immbert...where are you....answer the questions nah man!
Chinese Go Home Posted: 2009-08-27 08:19:00 AM
Even thought I am with Elias on all his points I can understand Manning's mentality. We have terrible engineers in Trinidad and lots of people who want pay for not working. I am so disgusted whenever I am in Trinidad and try to simply walk on almost any concreted sidewalk comfortably. It is beyond anybody's commonsence why it should be more comfortable to walk on the street than on most of these sidewalks with abrupt 90 degree raised driveways that are so high that one can't help but say how stupid. What well known projects in Trinidad was solely designed by Trinidad that we can be proud off. I can't think of one. Engineers may be engineer educated but they lack experience and exposure.
Chinese Go Home Posted: 2009-08-27 08:23:00 AM
Glad to read that someone like Emile Ellis has found the fortitude to stand up to the political diectorate and speak out against their economic agenda. Where are the labour leaders? Time for us to take mass action against the use of cheap foreign labour and wrong govrnment priorities.
Truth about Chinese immigration Posted: 2009-08-27 03:07:00 AM
If anyone doubt these concerns Mr Elias has about chinese immigration take a look around. I know in Suriname they have all but crippled the local construction industry. The regions governments are bending over for Chinese demands and I strongly feel there's a whole lot of cash that's being passed under the tables.
chineese go home Posted: 2009-08-27 04:33:00 AM
that is great send them home but have you ever witnessed Trini's work schedule. Construction workers show up to work at around 11.30 if you are lucky, they go for lunch at around 2pm and never return. Most times they leave you hang up with your projects having already collected your money. They always come and ask for money ahead of time with some sad story behing it. They thief your material if you are not there to watch them and when they take the job they promise you in two month they actually mean 8 month. If we can find people who are committed and willing to work what is the problem I am speaking from experience here.
Let them do there job Posted: 2009-08-27 07:20:00 AM
LET THEM SAY I think it's silly to force good workers chinese workers to go home when trinidadians dont want to do the job if lazy trinidadians would get off they behinds and work, it wouldn't have been a problem would it, it's like america, they want to get rid of all the mexicans here cause they take jobs no american want to do. so shut up and let the people do their job. get over it and grow up..trini.houston
Re: Let them do there job Posted: 2009-08-27 1:47:00 PM
Why should they shut up? that's the problem with some of you trini Yankees you air 'ur mouth when you yourself perhaps were the same when you were back here. Now u're in the US maybe working 3 jobs to make ends meet and here we're fighting if not 4 ourselves but for our future generation and you writing a load of codswallop and so darn rude telling pple to shut up.
Re: Let them do there job Posted: 2009-08-27 3:24:00 PM
That was a damn good response.....
The Government Needs to Look at the Guyanese Nationals Too Posted: 2009-08-27 08:46:00 AM
In addition to that the Government needs to keep close check on those Guyanese nationals that are coming into the country on pretext of vacation and are working on our developmental programmes. I was told by a contractor that some of them profess to be masons and cannot do mason work, others are hired as carpenters but their standard of carpentry and joinery work is poor. They often spoil material or deliver inferior work as they do not know the skills well or none at all; resulting in work being kept back or poor work being delivered.The catch with these people is that they are willing to work for very low wages to get by, but they don't tell the truth about their capabilities. The other thing is that many stay in the country illegally and hoodwink nationals into marrying them so that they can stay here. Please if all of Guyana comes to Trinidad and Tobago and other Caribbean nations, who will be left in Guyana? Further what kind of access will Trinidad and Tobago nationals have to OUR OWN RESOURCES when we have to compete with outsiders?
Re: The Government Needs to Look at the Guyanese Nationals Too Posted: 2009-08-27 1:05:00 PM
Very good point about the Guyanese...And they are quick to open restaurants like the Chinese and cannot cook. And while we are it, let us look at the Nigerians who come to our shores and claim they are doctors and practice as such, and our people are patronizing their practice. Who verified their credentials/experience/qualifications? What is happening in T&T is that everyone heard that there is no check and balances, so you can do whatever you like and the chances of being caught is close to zero....
Re: The Government Needs to Look at the Guyanese Nationals Too Posted: 2009-08-27 3:10:00 PM
Extremely good points raised here. I truly hope the pple checking on these Nigerians are making sure their papers are genuine.Here in London they are so darn good with their false credentials they are only found out maybe a year or two after being employed in our hospitals here.I'm scared for the pple in T&T.
Maracus Bay Posted: 2009-08-27 07:29:00 AM
Why would Government waste money on refurbishing Maracus Bay when so many people cry for better health care and for justice everyday? A police service that isn't run by corruption and lies?
Sour grapes? Posted: 2009-08-27 08:50:00 AM
Oh those sour grapes really have a bad taste now after all those government contracts that are not coming your way anymore.
Re: Sour grapes? Posted: 2009-08-27 4:43:00 PM
Oh please......
Re: Sour grapes? Posted: 2009-08-27 11:39:00 AM
What Elias is saying is verrry true- BUT would he be saying all this if he was getting government contracts???
why?? Posted: 2009-08-27 07:41:00 AM
no one in trinidad wants to work or has any good work ethic. Why not give it to others who will get the job done. Trinidadians want to live like the U.S, and not work for it. It's "Together We Perspire, Together We Go Tief" Until people in this God-forsaken island realize they need to stop pretending to be gansters and live and work like human beings, let others continue to take it. Even animals have a code; Trinidadians only want to wine down the place and party.
Manning again Posted: 2009-08-27 07:45:00 AM
Our Prime Minister has become dangerously out of touch with the pulse of the people
Chinese Go Home Posted: 2009-08-27 07:50:00 AM
I'm glad to see that Trinidadians are waking up and smelling the mess that Manning is making of this beautiful island. The hospitals are not fit for humans, the health system is in a mess, as a matter of fact, the whole country needs an uplift. It's time to get Manning out and bring in some "new young blood" to get the country in shape. It's our country, protect with our lives because it's worth it.
Chinses go home Posted: 2009-08-27 03:50:00 AM
If local contracts do the job the right way and stop trying to cut corners so they can steal and cheat tax payers. Plus the Maracas Bay Project is a good thing because its about time the government start showing interest in tourism because it is one industry that the government been ignoring for a long time.
Send the chinese home. Posted: 2009-08-27 08:03:00 AM
Thank good, someone is seeing what I am seeing. Why are there so many Chinese working in Trinidad in the first place? We have a great availability of construction workers in Trinidad, my father included. This government is ignorate as to what 'patriotism means, nor the concept of charity beginning at home'. Let's hope they donot learn the hard way!!
CHINESE WORKERS Posted: 2009-08-27 08:20:00 AM
Yes I agree with Mr.Emile Elias, priority should T&T citizens first and not the Chinese workers. Mr, Dumas of Tobago once said T&T workers should be more productive and work hard as the & Chinese. Mr. Dumas this is not salvery or Indenture labourers. T&T workers build this country where it is today. look we build house from dirt to 2 and 3 stories brick houses. Mr.Manning let priority first for your citizens and don't fool them when elections come with false promises. let the buck stop here for sweet T&T. JOBS for T&T Citizens. Our people is most generous spender that help this economy. I CARE FOR ALL MY PEOPLE. Trini-N.J. USA.
Chinese Workers Posted: 2009-08-27 08:27:00 AM
Unfortunately it is a know fact that locals work at snail pace and if the chinese can come in and produce results what's the fuss. A large construction project such as a mall would be completed in North America or Asia in lets say 2-3 years(no loose ends) but in Trinidad it would take 5-10 years. WHY? WHY? No one complains about this. Historically locals like to receive a nice pay, 100 people assigned to do the work of 20 and still takes 5 times as long to complete the job. WHY? Who's accountable. If you want locals to have preference on contracts which makes sense they must prove themselves. You are correct in saying action speaks louder than words. The Chinese are very hard working people who gets the job done and that's what we need not a group who feels they are entitled.
Re: Chinese Workers Posted: 2009-08-27 2:18:00 PM
Locals must be educated and be properly supervised....The only way to change the status quo in our culture is through education.....Education with respect to business management, productivity, economics, and social behaviour.....
Shame On You Sir Posted: 2009-08-27 04:29:00 AM
Bigoted Comment, Shame on you Mr. Elias! You Sir should apologise to the people of TNT's multi ethnic, multi cultural society where every Creed & Race find an equal Place. TrinBagonian IN Canada
Finally Someone talking some Sense! Posted: 2009-08-27 08:31:00 AM
I fully agree with MR.Elias!! I do not believe for one minute that the Chinese "Building Specialists" which we all know are far from it could not be replaced with our own home grown talent. Shocking that the young school leavers of T and T cannot be trained to undertake the building work or their own country. The chinese work is far from pristine to say the least! When the work is finished do the Chinese go home? I think not, by the time to go home comes they are here for good...
SO true Posted: 2009-08-27 08:35:00 AM
if they are allowed to come so should our caribbean neighbours.
Why not the Chinese Posted: 2009-08-27 09:54:00 AM
Let the Chinese people work!!We have too many shiftless workers and corrupt contractors who drag out jobs and double costs by the time the job is done.
AMEN! Posted: 2009-08-27 08:37:00 AM
Say it again. Chinese go home and let TTians make some money, learn skills, and raise the std of living.
My respect Posted: 2009-08-27 10:00:00 AM
to Mr.Elias for speaking out. You are so right. Build our economy first, not others.
Chinese Go Home Posted: 2009-08-27 04:46:00 AM
The Chinese work force in Trinidad & Tobago will have the effect as cancer on the human body. There are to many able body citizens of Trinidad & Tobago in need of work. What alternatives are available when you give jobs to outsiders, this has a direct effect on the level of crime within the country. Our people need a means by which to live, this situation cannot be corrected overnight, we need to invest in our welfare. Let's create programs that will enable our locals to gain the knowledge within the disciplines needed to fill these voids. Thus making them more productive and also creating a sense of individual worth. The long term ramifications would transform Trinidad & Tobago into a model not only for the region but a shining example for the world. The longer our present attitude continues the more susceptible we become to foreign influence. Eventually the direction of Trinidad & Tobago will no longer be controlled by the people but by some outside entity or corporation with one thing and one thing only in mind, "The improvement of there bottom line" what happens to our people and or our lands are of no concern to them, at the end of it all they will just move on to another host.
Chinese go home Posted: 2009-08-27 10:15:00 AM
Next thing you know, they will own Trinidad.
Re: Chinese go home Posted: 2009-08-27 2:40:00 PM
They already do....
Re: Send chinese workers home Posted: 2009-08-27 10:21:00 AM
I could not agree more with you Mr. Elias. That is total madness. Since when does Maracas become a priority? The future of the youth is at stake. Build more schools to educate them, fix the health systems and too many babies are dying and further to that improve the already youth oriented programmes that are available. These Chinese workers are not building our economy as they send all there money back to their country. We have alot of young people here who are well qualified to do the job. What are you saying Mr.Prime Minister, that the same programme young people part take in (e.g. MuST, CCC, and YTEPP) are not good enough to qualify them to work on these projects? Don't you have confidence in the systems that are implemented here? Come on I am sure our local contractors have the ablility and know how to take on these tasks. Give them a chance man!!!!!
Send the Chinese Home! Posted: 2009-08-27 10:32:00 AM
Right on Emile! I agree with you 100%. But remember, when Manning signs the country away to China and other countries he will tell you it is now a gobal economy and he is operating in the best interest of the T&Teconomy, under the umbrella of "free trade. This is not free trade. Instead, he is trading the lives of the unemployed people of T&T into the hands of foreign nations who do not care about T&T as they invest to get rich off our nation sending the wages they earn right back to China and stimulating their country'seconomy. The people of T&T must see these foreigners for who and what they are and let their voices be heard in community meetings around the nation so that Manning and his cohots will do the right thing and send the chinese back home.If there is not a stop to these pacts that Manning is signing with forein nations, the next generation will wake up to find that the nation of T&T with its wealth of natural resources signed and sold out to foreigners and by then it will be too late. Please people of T&T take back the country from the hands of the PNM Govt.while you still have the time! Toronto Trini
Chineese go home Posted: 2009-08-27 10:36:00 AM
I am very happy that someone is so outspoken in regards to the government awarding those contracts to foreign firms ,when we have local contractors that are cabable of doing the job.Kudos my friend.The government needs to explain themselves and give the local contractors those jobs,We need to build schools, fire and police stations before we look at the Maracas project.
chinese go bac k home Posted: 2009-08-27 09:20:00 AM
Mr. Elias I am in great support of you. i live in a depressed community and most of the men in my community depend on construction to make a living, when the Chinese fill up the industry there is no work left for them to do, if they do get work for two weeks they are without a job for 4 months. you tell me doesn't the Prime Minister know the effect of what he is doing. He is turning citizens to criminals and vagrants, prostitutes and more. come on Mr. Manning there are many contractors that depend on this industry to make a living stop feeding the neighbors and feed your own we are pleading with you.
Chinese GO HOME.. Posted: 2009-08-27 09:23:00 AM
Oh please, when Trinidadians learn to be on time with work then they can go but until then be quite.
shame shame shame Posted: 2009-08-27 10:42:00 AM
Mr Elias is so right we need national investment to stem the tide of erosion that exist today.Side by side we must stand to build back sweet T&T.KIRT ....USA
Chinese Go home Posted: 2009-08-27 10:45:00 AM
Chinese in Canada do not hire no other nationality besides themselves, so I does wonder why Trini hire so many of them from overseas. Not the local born citizens of chinese decent.
Yeah right!! Posted: 2009-08-27 05:31:00 AM
Mr. Elias is out or touch, must be living on another planet.
Chinese go home Posted: 2009-08-27 10:52:00 AM
What the hell is wrong with this goverment? At a time of high unemployment for T&T workers they are allowing foriegn nationals to come in and fill the few jpobs left. This is insane.Wake up trinis before you got nothing left to fight for.
Chinese Posted: 2009-08-27 09:43:00 AM
They are all over the Caribbean not only in Trinidad. We feel badly in St Lucia also. So many non national companies seems to get our jobs. Our people need work badly.It would slow down the crime rate.
It's About Time! Posted: 2009-08-27 11:25:00 AM
Finally someone's has said it. This is not anything against the Chinese people but, citizens are suffering in TnT because they cannot work in the construction industry and Manning, is paying these people more than what a local worker will be paid. Absolute nonsense. I wonder what the kickback is for Manning for giving the contracts to foreign contractors that TnT contractors can do.
Re: I agree Posted: 2009-08-27 11:39:00 AM
I agree with Emile Elias...let the locals charge the huge overruns and submit substadard work instead of the Chinese.
Chinese Go Home Posted: 2009-08-27 10:34:00 AM
I know both Riley and Emile, They are from different spectra of the construction idustry, My question is why now? When you both had the benefit of "Manning's" Government you were quiet, I do agree that the awarding of contract to foreign contractors is not the best solution. We need change in this country , stop the bickering and do the right thing at the next election. If you cant beat the corrupt system : get rid of it.
RE: "Chinese go home" Posted: 2009-08-27 10:39:00 AM
I totally agree with Emile Elias, they infiltrate every country!
Chnese Go Home Posted: 2009-08-27 10:40:00 AM
I agree - it is time that they left our country. They are taking jobs away from the locals. Even if they are there for a consulting opportunity then use them in that sphere. The fact that Trinis may not hav ethe attitude is a lame excuse- let's be strict and build on a business policy which strengthens the education and will of our people. We have seen a wold class example - get them to hell back in their country and lets us build ours.
Chinese go home Posted: 2009-08-27 12:02:00 AM
mr elias, DO YOU HAVE ANY RELATIVES LIVING IN A FOREIGN LAND?
Re: Chinese go home Posted: 2009-08-27 12:27:00 AM
And what is your point??????
CHINESE WORKERS Posted: 2009-08-27 12:27:00 AM
In any other country, words like that would be slammed as pure racism, that aside has it ever occurred to Mr. Elias that people in Trinidad simply do not want to do labour of any kind? Just watch CEPEP in action and you will see, who not on their cell phones, they standing 'shooting ah blag' and by 12pm work done... This is what passes for work ethic in Trinidad... And slamming the Chinese workers was nothing short of scandalous, what if some foreign person had said that about Trinidadians who went into their country and tried to make an honest living? I live in Canada and there is the biggest mix of ethnics you will ever see and never once have I heard a Canadian say something like that, and if they did they would come under some serious blows... Most young people in Trinidad don't care a fig about making an honest living, they would rather shoot and kill the innocent and claim as their own... Manning is a lot of things but perhaps he knows exactly how his people approach work and how lazy they can be, everybody wants to be a foreman nobody wants to be a worker... Such racist and degrading remarks made so public and no rebuttal, shameful...
Re: CHINESE WORKERS Posted: 2009-08-27 2:39:00 PM
Trinidad economy cannot be compared to the Canadian economy, so why try to equate one to the other. Furthermore, Trinidad is 1,896 square miles, like a grain of salt to Canada, so yes, the Trinidad government should focus on its people. What we need to do in T&T is educate our people, as to why we need to stand together to build T&T. And with respect to your erroneous comment as follows:"Most young people in Trinidad don't care a fig about making an honest living, they would rather shoot and kill the innocent and claim as their own; Please Take Note that a lot of the crime in T&T is being committed by foreigners who entered T&T illegally and legally. Manning has his own agenda at hand....You should stay in Canada my friend.....Nuff said Trini, FL
MADNESS Posted: 2009-08-27 12:30:00 AM
This is the problem with T&T and other countries like it. How can you become a first world country without taking care of you own people. Especially when you have trained and qualified people to do the work. Mr. Elias is correct in standing up for his company and the local people he will employ to do the jobs. You show this disdan to your own and expect to get respect from otherrs around the world? They look at you and laugh saying you third world fools. Mr. Manning please do not do this to your people save $$$ and give locals the work. -Trini watching in the US
Chinese go Home Posted: 2009-08-27 11:28:00 AM
All well and good that they be asked to leave / Go Home.Are you and the rest of us Trinis ready to pick up the slack and run with the baton and build in the manner that these folks have been doing. Me tinks NOT Yu just looking at the Dollar signs and the lost monies ( not lining Your pockets )being paid to dem folks.They should Not have been brought in the first place but things needed to get done in a professional manner and they have able to do that.The problem is that at the end of the day what they have built is Not theirs it's still ours.We need to recalibrate out culture regain our collective Pride and decide How do we get it ALL back.Still proud but tings hard to swallow.
'CHINESE GO HOME' Posted: 2009-08-27 11:42:00 AM
Are you serious Mr. Prime Minister? I live in Paramin I for years we have gone without a proper facility for education. What are we chop liver?
Comments: 'CHINESE GO HOME' Posted: 2009-08-27 09:27:00 AM
Atlas, we have someone who is talking to the people and leveling the playing field about the financial priorities of the country and the people. I do like Manning but the guy seems to not give a hoot about the people of Trinidad. He shoots off in all direction with a moral compass. Our system is broken. The violence, broken medical care, broken industry and then comes the Chinese government to sweet talk the chap, next all you know we are stuck with a bunch of Chinese in our country displacing our nationals and taking bread out of our children's mouth. The Chinese have taken over the former colonized countries and re-colonize them big time. Has Manning lost his mind or forgotten the battles of great men like Eric Williams, Ghandi and Nkrumah? Go get him Elias give em hell!
Whatever Posted: 2009-08-27 10:18:00 AM
If the US and UK were to promote the mentality expressed here by many of you, MOST of you would be fired and on a plane back to Trinidad. How ironic.
Is about time (Chinese) Posted: 2009-08-27 1:05:00 PM
As a Trini living abroad I agree totalll that the Chinese workers should go home. There are locals who can do the work. I was a firm supporter of the PNM but Patrick Manning has become a dictator of sorts, he does as he pleases. Send dem home now! Trini2debone New York
Re: Is about time (Chinese) Posted: 2009-08-27 1:09:00 PM
Obama should send YOU home. You have the gall to be in someone else's country and talking about who taking whose job? You really serious? The US should do to you what you want done to the Chinese.
Trinis are lazy Posted: 2009-08-27 10:23:00 AM
Spare me the crap about Trinis needing work. Go up in Laventille right now and see how much of them home watching Young and Restless and not even TRYING to get a job. It is their fault the Govt needed to bring in foreigners. Trinis DO NOT WANT TO WORK but are always whining about who taking the jobs they refused to sign up for in the first place. The Chinese not taking away anybody's job. You all are just spoilt and lazy Steups.
Chinese go home Posted: 2009-08-27 09:06:00 AM
Elias is concerned with one thing and one thing only: his profit margin. When he boasted of having the previous regime removed, he did it with the understanding that he also contributed to both parties during their election in an earlier election. I am 115% Trini (VI). However, Trinis work ethic while at home is the worse. But Elias, Mr Man, Bas, et. al. are all cuts of the same fabric, all living off the fat (oil/gas)of the land getting rich off the state.
Don`t complain Posted: 2009-08-27 09:08:00 AM
Why complain when we the people put the PNM back in power. And we like it so?
America, UK and Canada Posted: 2009-08-27 1:13:00 PM
America, UK and Canda should tell Trinidians To Go Home!
Re: America, UK and Canada Posted: 2009-08-27 4:24:00 PM
Not when you are a citizen of the said country. unlike them on work permit and contract...send them the hell home, and build schools and hospitals.!!!
Re: America, UK and Canada Posted: 2009-08-27 8:45:00 PM
What an idiotic comment. The US tells the Mexicans to go home, so what is your point?
Re: CHINESE WORKERS Posted: 2009-08-27 09:18:00 AM
I am somewhat shocked and appalled by this story and feel equally the same about the people supporting this statement by Mr. Elias. It is very correct to say that many trinis leave their country seeking better employment opportunities and lives elsewhere.. and you don't see the rest of the world blasting them. In fact it is encouraged as these skills are harnessed for further development of a country. Same goes for the chinese... it is a blatant fact that they are amongst the most productive of work ethics. If we wait around for the majority of local labour to complete a job.. we would be waiting for quite a bit of time!!! It is unfortunate that their jobs are be replaced by the chinese, but if anything, this should motivate them to work harder instead of complaining. Mr. Elias let me ask you this.. why then don't we send home all foreign nationals trying to earn an honest living in Trinidad such as the syrians selling cloth, or arabs selling food, or even the chinese restaurant owners? Aren't they also occupying jobs that could be done by locals?! The reason why.. is because they are not affecting your business and your livelihood! You do not complain when PNM administration benefits you, so don't complain now because your personal being has hit an obstacle.. instead seek a wise and sustainable solution!!!
WELL WELL Posted: 2009-08-27 2:39:00 PM
you people just do not understand,the people of trinidad and tobago are to lazy and only wants to theif for a living,so who will do the work,its the forners.
Chinese go home ! Posted: 2009-08-27 2:54:00 PM
It's how it has always been in Trinidad & Tobago... "when you're light, all right, when you're black, stay back." and this type of mentality will NEVER change, no matter how much we choose to bury our heads in the sand about it.
Chinese stay in trinidad Posted: 2009-08-27 1:41:00 PM
the chinese workers are here because trinidadians cannot get the job done on time....wake up
Lazy Trinis Posted: 2009-08-27 1:43:00 PM
Maybe if Trinidadians got a work ethic injection the Chinese could go home. But they do a fair days work and get paid for it. Do not complain about building other countries when the fault lies with Trinis
MADNESS!!!! Posted: 2009-08-27 1:44:00 PM
Can any of our local construction firm go to China and get this type of favours? Or in any other foreign country for that matter? Mr.Manning stop being a hypocrite and take care of Trinidad & Tobago before you play Godfather to all these other countries.
SOMETHING HAVE TO BE DONE TO PROMOTE EFFICIENCY Posted: 2009-08-27 3:12:00 PM
when one looks at the construction industry & health industry, it sad but the fact is, the job is not being done efficiently by the locals. The construction industry is filled with a lot of lazy workers and the health industry the doctors are playing politic rather than be more efficient with their jobs.
Re: Chinese Go Home? What kind of racist headline is that Ms. Ria Taitt? Posted: 2009-08-27 2:07:00 PM
i could understand the fact and agree that we need to support of our local contractors. However where can you get workers to work longer hours and hoilidays. Our Trinibagonian workers are too dam lazy. Another note Ms. Ria Taitt Political Editor, you of all people should know its its politically incorrect to say in a BOLD statment and worst yet the head lines of the Express "Chinese go home". I feel offended being Trinidadian and especially being of chinese descent. You should at least said Chinese Contractors/Workers/Construction Companies etc. go home. How would you like someone to say BLACK PEOPLE GO HOME or INDIAN PEOPLE GO HOME. Doesn't sound nice huh! Check yourself!
Chinese workers Posted: 2009-08-27 4:11:00 PM
Re: Chinese Go Home--an inflammatory headline if ever there was one. I too, believe Trinidad should hire it's own workers, but is anyone teaching young people the skills they need in construction? And perhaps our bringing in foreign workers may be a part of trade deals we have with China. Lastly, build more schools, especially those that teach trades by which our people may make a living.
Re: Chinese workers Posted: 2009-08-27 3:14:00 PM
There is nothing "inflammatory" about the headline....It is making a statement of fact, that the Chinese should go home....
Valid Debate Posted: 2009-08-27 10:58:00 AM
All valid debates, I think. The problem with these Chinese workers, stem from the inefficiency of TnT's labour force. From civil service to private enterprise. Trinidad is lacking in basic customer service. Most people in Trinidad lack motivation and empowerment by leadership to be a deciplined society. Having chinese labour is also a plus because of cost and effieciency, don't get me wrong this is a negative towards our development but when Trini workers are seeing wasting time instead of work and the chinese labourers are bussing their a@@, who would you hire for a cost effective project. Our mindset as trinis need to change, stop the fete-ing, liming and carnival whine-in mentality but then again look at our leaders, squandering and wasting our money. We have no examples.
Chinese laborers in TnT Posted: 2009-08-27 11:04:00 AM
All the folks who are berating the local workers for not working as conscientiously as the Chinese conveniently forget that these people come from a totalitarian regime. The fact that Manning prefers them to local workers show his contempt for the local populace and the trade union movement. Too many workers todat forget the WEEKENDS,HEALTH CARE, VACATIONS,SICK LEAVE and other such benefits came about because of the great work of the trade union movement. I have a Trinidadian friend in Barbados who ALWAYS makes disparaging remarks about workers who go on strike but NEVER comments on the excesses of managers. Of course, he is in a management position and would never inconvenience himself or put his income and family interests above that of the common man but he has benefitted immensely from all our hard work. He also is a "PNM till ah dead" and ,like so many others, fails to see the contempt with which Manning holds the populace. It is such a pity that the opposition parties are so inept and TnT will continue to go down this inexorable slide to oblivion.
re: Re: Chinese Go Home? What kind of racist headline is that Ms. Ria Taitt? Posted: 2009-08-27 12:22:00 AM
Well said. i'm suprised more people didnt pick that up right off the bat. I am of indian descent and I was shocked at such a bold, racist headline. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE! If it was said to end the contracts, fine. Chinese people a are very productive people and could help T&T if they decide to stay. However, I agree that the money could have been put elsewhere - Typical PNM mismanagement and we don't have a feasible party to replace them...
re: Re: Chinese Go Home? What kind of racist headline is that Ms. Ria Taitt? Posted: 2009-08-27 3:18:00 PM
Again, what is "racist and UNACCEPTABLE" about the headline? NOTHING....It is time for the Chinese to depart, and it is certainly time for the Guyanese to go back home too. Trinidadians need to regain control of their country.....
chinese Posted: 2009-08-27 3:28:00 PM
yeah right, how many of us trinis are willing to work hard for our days pay, we come to work late,in no hurry to start work, take extended lunch time and stop work early. We only seem to worry about having a good time.
There are others to send home too. Posted: 2009-08-27 3:29:00 PM
I have no problem ensuring the Chinese return home . However, I am seeing so many foreigners of all types taking over the local jobs - even Syrian looking people in the restaurants. So, if you sending some you have to send all. Work is hard to come by for many citizens and foreign returning locals. Yet, we have some dotish immigration officers who tell them to Marry a local and get to stay.
BE SERIOUS!!! Posted: 2009-08-27 5:03:00 PM
All this talk about sending Trinis back from UK or US, unless you are working illegally in the US you HAVE TO PAY TAXES there is no getting around that period. You dont get that choice not to pay taxes. So why is this being afforded to these Chinese Co.? To think you can come into uncle SAM country and not pay taxes (legally) you're crazy. Also the companies that hire you are US based and owned so you are working for an American company not a foreign company with all foreign workers. This needs to be look at closly......
re: Re: Chinese Go Home? What kind of racist headline is that Ms. Ria Taitt? Posted: 2009-08-27 5:11:00 PM
So would it be fair to tell the Grenadians, Bajans, and Vincentians to go back where they came from as well? Or is it that you support kicking out the people who's nationality ends in "-ese"? GIMME A BREAK! You might as well break out the hoods and lets burn some crosses...you sound just like them!
refurbish the beach Posted: 2009-08-27 4:01:00 PM
refurbish the beach because when the children not in school they are on the beach...maybe we should build a school on the beach...and sign me up first.
Chinese should stay.... Posted: 2009-08-27 6:15:00 PM
I am sure if the locals were capable of performing the same task in an orderly fashion, the job would have been given to them. I see no wrong in allowing competent workers to do the job. TriniAmerican NMcKAin
Re: CHINESE WORKERS Posted: 2009-08-27 4:59:00 PM
Again reading and not understanding, the point is not 'Canada better', the point is being racist and are you trying to tell me that a whole bunch of foreigners sneak into Lavantille, Morvant etc and do crimes?? What a laugh... And as for my comment about young people, read the ages of the ones committing crimes, anywhere from 16 - 24... As for me staying in Canada, big words from a Trini in FLORIDA... Learn some respect for other races, the same as you would expect for yourself in Florida, if we did that in Trinidad we wouldn't be as racist as we are today... Nothing but bigotry plain and simple...
How bout this Posted: 2009-08-27 8:43:00 PM
Ok has anyone noticed how beautiful the constructions are looking, how nice it feels to be in t&t, anyway lets say we send them home and trini get their contracts and lets say that they dont all perform as expected, do u know how far back that will set this country.In my mind all of this construction will lead to more jobs, in the long run foreigners will invest U.S dollars into t&t and it will benifit this nation and the next generation, as for workers , expand your horizons and don't wait for people to give you contracts, you go out and start or extend your business.Do you think businessmen stand up waiting for someone to come and offer then a job, nope they should offer themselves to people and stop waiting for handout contracts.I think the only reason i think there would be a big fuss about this whole thing is because people not really interested in making a living , they just want to get BIG money and contracts ,(not referring to anyone here just making general statements).In closing all i can say is if you think the money isnt coming in well its best that you go out and get the money.thank you,sorry for the errors

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