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WHAT IS THE FUSS?
Sport Minister defends $2m flag...


REVEALED FIGURES: Sport Minister Gary Hunt following a press conference at the Sport Company, Henry Street, Port of Spain, yesterday.-Photo: ROBERTO CODALLO

IN the face of apparent unrelenting condemnation over the $2 million cost of the ’legacy’ flag hoisted in the Hasely Crawford Stadium, Sports Minister Gary Hunt yesterday dismissed reports that the flag was having the opposite effect of what it was meant to achieve - which is national pride.

’I disagree. You just have to go on Facebook and you would see some of the arguments and support that is there. It has huge support online,’ he said.

Told that there were some adverse comment in the media, Hunt replied: ’I haven’t heard any. From my walkabouts, I have heard no such comments... I have just come from the walk from Hutton Road, Cascade, in my constituency and I have had no such comments.’

He was speaking at a news conference at the Sport Company, at which the Sport Company of Trinidad and Tobago (Sportt) confirmed that the erection of the controversial flag cost $2 million.

The breakdown provided by Sportt Chairman Kenneth Charles is as follows: flag and fabric-$18,112,15; foundation and installation works-TT$940,000; design and supply of the ’monster flag pole’ TT$932,400.

In addition, the ministry acquired three additional flags at a cost of TT$54,336. The flag, which is out of composite nylon and covers 2,160 square feet, will have to be replaced every four to six months, dependent on the weather condition, on a permanent basis.

Hunt said the flag was a ’worthy investment, especially for young people ’who need to look inward at our heroes ..., instead of the Paris Hiltons’.

Told that this was the second facility named after a national icon which has encountered controversy (the first being Brian Lara Stadium in Tarouba), Hunt said: ’It is my opinion that every day that the flag flies it would do the damage control (necessary to blunt criticism), because it would reflect itself as a symbol of national pride every time we look at it, and it should.’

The Minister was flanked by Charles and Sportt Executive Director, Darren Millien. Charles said the company was aware of the possible costs at the start of the project.

’We knew that the stadium is built on reclaimed land. There was an expectation that when you went to a certain depth that you would encounter water, hence the need to do all the soil testing before you started the project ... So it was an engineering project and therefore it had a certain cost,’ Charles said.

He said the engineering works which took place in the ’swampy soil conditions where the stadium is located’, included a soil analysis and geotechnical survey, design of the foundation, excavation to a depth of 20 feet x 20 ft x 15 feet, 400 tonnes of reinforced concrete, two tonnes of steel, reinforcements, blue stone and granular backfill, and contracting the use of heavy lifting equipment such as cranes to hold the flag in position for several days while the concrete set.

Charles said people had to keep in mind that the pole, which is 165 feet high (15 feet below ground and 150 above), weighs 15,650 pounds, can withstand winds of 130 miles without the flag, 90 miles with the flag and has an earthquake rating of zone 5, ’just like in California’.

Asked why it took almost a week of controversy before coming forward to confirm the figures, Charles said the company had the information and it was up to the Minister to provide the guidance and instruction. Hunt said the ministry had to do a due diligence to ensure that the information given to the press was accurate.

’A question was asked on the cost of the flag, we answered that ... ($18,112.15),’ Hunt said, referring to the ministry’s release on Monday.

’And today, we are able to provide the data surrounding the structures that would support the flag,’ he added.

Was this being less than forthright with the public, the Minister was asked.

’You see people were associating the physical flag with a cost (of TT$ 2 million). And I think that it was only fair that the public know that the actual fact was $18,000 ...That is a different issue (from) - what it takes to erect the flag,’ he said.

Asked whether he believed he was damaged by this issue and that people would henceforth refer to him as the $2 million man, Hunt said: ’You can’t put a price on a person’s personality. I am who I am ... carrying out a mandate for the people of Trinidad and Tobago as Minister of Sport, which I am proud to do... I think in time people would understand the value of what we have done.’

Charles said the contract was the result of competitive tender from three suppliers-Phabha Sports International; Fire One Fire Works and Excellent Technologies. The successful bidder was Fire One Fire Works, which had installed the only other legacy flag in the country-the one at Macoya.


 Comments: WHAT IS THE FUSS?
FLAG Posted: 2009-11-04 11:34:00 PM
Honourable Minister: When you find yourself in a hole, please stop digging.
Squander-mania Posted: 2009-11-05 00:03:00 AM
The FUSS is about the wastage of the people's money AND the probability of Corruption.
National Pride, What's the fuss? Posted: 2009-11-04 10:35:00 PM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the procurement of a Nation's flag, but in this economic climate nd the impact of the global recession and the threat from HINI to the youth and citizens, it would have been better for the Sports Minister to consult with the Health Minister and redirect the money towards the purchase of baldy needed medicine for those currently stampeding to the Hospitals with anything resembling HINI. Never mind facebook, Mr. Minister, do the things that are practical and the flag can wait till HINI is gone and the economy is on the rebound.
$2m Flag Posted: 2009-11-04 10:40:00 PM
Honestly, the idea is good but the timing is so very wrong!The Prime Minister is asking citizens to tighten their belts and the Government should be leading by example.Considering the country's present situation this is a gross misuse of taxpayers' dollars!This "milk has already been spilt" so let's not waste time crying but in the future Mr.Hunt please let good sense prevail..please
No No, Hunt! Posted: 2009-11-04 5:50:00 PM
No Mr Hunt. The people of Trinidad and Tobago will never agree with you! It seems that you read facebook, but not the locel newspapers! You could never justify to anyone, the erection of a Flaf that cost $2M. while the people are facing increased taxes, cost of living, and a failed police service!!! Get with it, man. Would YOU have spent that kin of money if it was your private Company or you personally, paying for it? The answer is a resounding NOOO.....
$2 million dollar flag Posted: 2009-11-04 11:29:00 PM
what next a $3m dollar shoes for the PM. Come on people what are you doing with the tax payer money. Please treat it like it is your , please stop the wastage. Watch what is going on around the world please. Does it not affect Trinidad & Tobago??. Please PMN we had a very good example from the UNC on how NOT to run a Government and yet you are doing the same. National Pride begins with the people and NOT a flag no matter its size! Shame on you Sport Minister!.
Thanks for wasting our money Posted: 2009-11-05 01:10:00 AM
So what the honorable minister is trying to say here is that; in facilitating the flag they spent 1,982,000. That means we actually had to spend this much to spend a further 18,000 on the actual flag. This adds up to the same thing; 2 MILLION dollars to put a flag up that is supposed to do what? give us a sense of pride? unite the nation? exactly what was wrong with putting up a smaller flag? or putting a few smaller flags around the stadium for that matter? Is the government trying to compensate for something? This luxury is just as useful or as useless as that stupid blimp. That 2 MILLION dollars could have been spent on the under privileged or on the crime situation. Before these ministers spend money on things to make us feel proud, I think it would be wise if first we actually had something to be proud about. Overwhelming crime, corruption and outrageous food prices just don't cut it.
Fuss? Get up and smell the coffee Sir. Posted: 2009-11-04 6:50:00 PM
Mr Hunt and companyy must realise that the people's money must be spent on the people. Spending money on a flag is just like buying sunglasses or jewellery to show off. I am so ashamed of Mr Hunt for being si insensitive in this guava season.
The two million dollar man Posted: 2009-11-04 11:53:00 PM
There's a simple way to explain what Mr. Hunt is after with all this rationalising after the fact: A silly idea was put in place without adequate thought, and now Mr. Hunt wants to stay 'wrong and strong'.
Ashamed! Posted: 2009-11-05 00:29:00 AM
Words couldn't describe more about a flag costing $2 million. Even worse a "yes man" trying to justify it's costs over patriotism. Shame on you Gary Hunt, shame on the PNM- p.s. all the over spending here, there and everywhere, allyuh make the Airport look like a "dollyhouse!" Ann (Canada)
Tax Payers Money Posted: 2009-11-04 8:28:00 PM
We have to pay additional house and land taxes for this government to put up 2,000,000 dollars flag; pay for private jets for the PM; host conferences etc while the hospitals are over crowded and short staffed, roads and highways are in a state of disrepair, citizens have no water, food prices are high, citizens are denied old age grants (pension), and more.... Why should we put up with this ? Somebody must stop this regime from strangling the population.
what is the fuss Posted: 2009-11-05 02:01:00 AM
ok this is the fuss why didint you use MUST,YTEPP, or some government porgramme to sew the flag would'nt it have been more cost effective then tell us about pride.
$2 million man Posted: 2009-11-05 02:15:00 AM
What arrogance.... Vs
WHAT IS THE FUSS? Posted: 2009-11-05 04:10:00 AM
Is this a case of quote "the candle costing more than the funeral"
Flag Party!!! Posted: 2009-11-05 02:49:00 AM
I am really ashamed as a Trinidadian to see how the Government is wasting money. In addition to this, I am equally ashamed to say that the Minister of Sport is a QRC Ole Boy. We doh operate like dat. So if the flag cost $2 million how much did the branding of the Ministry's new logo cost us a couple of weeks ago?
National Pride Posted: 2009-11-05 04:32:00 AM
Personally i find if Mr. Hunt find that some people are fussing then he should take out the flag on terms and pay for it out his own pocket. As a nation we have the right to fuss anytime like Mr. Hunt forget who money he spending. That is such an illiterate statement. We really gone to the dogs.
WHAT IS THE FUSS Posted: 2009-11-05 04:37:00 AM
Minister you people is taking taxpayers money to spend as you feel .Why you poeople cant get some sence in your head. Right now money is tight. People is suffering. No Water. Bad roads No Electricity. at this time could this money not being spent in some better form?National pride is one thing, but putting food on the table is another thing.You cant eat National Pride. (Gobin trini to the bone)
What nonsense! Posted: 2009-11-05 03:34:00 AM
Sorry Mr Charles, you mangled the ordinary meanings of words: the mast is 165 feet high. It turns out to be 150 above and fifteen below. I suspect you have also mangled amounts given. As for Mr Hunt: he had to do a 'due diligence'test before he could release the amounts. What nonsense!
whats the fuss Posted: 2009-11-05 03:47:00 AM
how can he ask this when children are dying, are their lives worth less than a flag which has to be replaced every six months, I will look on this flag and feel shame, a far cry from national pride mr HUNT
Money blowing in the wind! Posted: 2009-11-04 10:53:00 PM
$36,000.00 per year to keep T&T National Flag blowing in the wind. It looks more like money blowing in the wind.
National Pride? Posted: 2009-11-05 03:56:00 AM
Minister Hunt, every situation has a context. Did you consider the current socio-economic context before agreeing to this extravagance? We, the voters will not forget this pain.
not a fuss eh Posted: 2009-11-05 03:56:00 AM
let them take part of their salary to contribute to them kinda things nah they will turn the world upside down
What is the Fuss Posted: 2009-11-04 10:57:00 PM
Minister Hunt did you take the time to think before making this statement?The hosipals are in a deplorable condition , poor people are suffering,are these so call supporters blind to the fact that 2 million dollars spent on a flag is crazy and not essential.Please tell these people to eat the flag when they are hungry or look at the flag when they are sick and suffering.
Bobol!!! Posted: 2009-11-04 11:19:00 PM
I see Bobol every time the flag flies. The cost of the flag is not the problem, its the overruns to friends to design, supply, installm repair replace forever|
Wrong concept of National Pride-Dead Investment Posted: 2009-11-05 04:21:00 AM
A $2 million dollars could havefurther helped: Helped the Special Olympians Helped Olympic swimmwers more Helped the Cycling federation more Improved motorsports to an international standard Introduce 'new' sports to locals Helped local Golf Improved Archery The mere fact that there is so much poverty amongst society, some recreational sport could have been improved for the common man- This is thinking with National Pride, not seeing $2 Million TT dollars depreciate every day going and coming, Does this bring some kind of investment? And a soil analysis and all the tra la la that they say comprised the 2 million dollars? Hogwash, wasting people's money. an oil rich island being squandered. Happy Face Guy
What is the fuss!!!!!! Posted: 2009-11-05 04:57:00 AM
The fuss is Gary, the suffering people to T & T not fortunate enough to fly overseas for medical treatment they have to stay and suffer with the hell hole allyuh call a Hospital, children dying for lack of money to get proper treatment, but yet you have 2 million to spend behind a flag...Talking about pride , sounding jokie coming from allyuh....STUPES.....
what is all the fuss Posted: 2009-11-05 01:28:00 AM
In a civilised and developed country the 2 millions would be no big thing, but here, now, when so much is in serious need of improvement and investment, this is another case of the PNM govt squandering taxpayers money on self aggrandisement, then not considering there is any need to tell us where our money is being spent. J. Lindsay
what is all the fuss Posted: 2009-11-05 05:01:00 AM
This is just another example of the Govt treating the electorate like mushrooms. Keep us in the dark and periodically cover us in "manure".
What is the FUSS???!!!!! Posted: 2009-11-05 00:10:00 AM
The fuss is this money could have been used to buy / supply much needed medical equipment, I think this would have given us more national pride, know we can go to the health facilities and be treated. Now that would be something to have pride in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what is the fuss? what is the fuss? Posted: 2009-11-05 05:10:00 AM
come on Mr. hunt, thats not right 2 million, not 2 thousand.and at the end of it, you brave to ask "what is the fuss?" up to this day we have not yet heard the out come of the where abouts of the football tickets, what ever became of that? but u brave enough to ask what is the fuss. come on better than that mr.hunt
$2M National Flag Posted: 2009-11-05 06:43:00 AM
The fuss is that the people have a right to know how their money (tax payers) is being spent. Let me remind you Mr Hunt that you are accountable to the people....that's what the fuss is about!!!!
Engineering project? Posted: 2009-11-05 05:14:00 AM
How come such extensive research didn't go into building the plant that sank in pitch? Why couldn't $20 000 every 4 to 6 months be invested into PEOPLE rather than a thing. How can a person without a wheelchair get to this flag to feel national pride? Can the flag fill a hungry child's belly? Does the flag cure people miraculously if they feel the pride? I'm not saying we shouldn't be proud of T&T. It's just that this money could have been spent in helping people to have something to be proud about (like healthcare maybe?)
Design cost? Posted: 2009-11-05 00:33:00 AM
Design of the ’monster flag pole’ TT$932,400. I am an Engineeer in the US and I can tell you it does not take over $100K US to design a flag pole. Monster pole is joke... This entire job could be done for $250K TT easy.
The Flag and the Common People Posted: 2009-11-05 07:09:00 AM
Minister Hunt said that the reporting by journalists creates the wrong impression in the common people. 'Common-people', what are common people is it those who work CEPEP and all government social programmes or is it the uneducated type those who don't have BAs, MBAs, and PhDs or is it those who behave like wajang. I take offense to this. And it will be 'accepted' this is true as it is also true that all things this present government does in a high-handed manner will be accepted, like white collar mismanagement at Udecott (I want a bigger yacht to), because they have the power to do it but the common people have the power of the finger in time. Mr. Minister its not about what your government does its how you do it in high-hand arrogant and stupid manner looking down on the common-people! So now the flag will do its own damage control.
...of withering national pride Posted: 2009-11-05 05:41:00 AM
...and the saga of the banana republic with the resources of a middle east budget but the vision of a myopic people continues...
$2mil Flag Posted: 2009-11-05 02:23:00 AM
That $2m could have been allocated towards our health care system in Trinidad and Tobago. Especially in the Arima District that doesn't even have a proper hospital.
wow, money fuh so. Posted: 2009-11-05 05:53:00 AM
The flag fabric is justifiable cost. The installation is ridiculously high. Two million dollars is a lot of money Mr. Minister. This should have cost nothing more than $500,000 and even that is a bit high. I am sure the minister could have used $100,000 to put the concrete and pole in.
Elites in charge Posted: 2009-11-05 00:55:00 AM
When you have Elites as ministers, 2M becomes pocket change for him.
2 Million dollars for a flag? Posted: 2009-11-05 07:30:00 AM
Come on Gary Hunt, will you spend 2 million dollars of your own money for a flag that costs 2 million dollars? you damn right you are another PNM puppet, sqandering the people money.
Are you kidding me Posted: 2009-11-05 06:01:00 AM
Mr Hunt, are you serious.. a flag costing two million for national pride when most if not all my pride is gone for a country that has a very high crime rate, a stadium that i pass everday that is not finished and poor health care.. Please what may be trivial to you, is important for the less fortunate. And please, dont use Facebook as your terms of reference.. thats not smart..
Don't feed me that nonsense Posted: 2009-11-05 01:02:00 AM
Mr. Hunt, you say that you have not heard any adverse comments in the media. Let me give you one right now; It is a disgrace that your government can spend $2m on a flag. (I don't care how much the flag cost, and the pole cost, at the end of the day $2m was spent) Your argument that it is a symbol of national pride. What tripe! National pride my friend is when you can boast of a first class health sector for ALL, first class education for ALL, water and electricity for ALL, a level of crime that is not an international disgrace, and a national cricket team that didn't have to go cap in hand begging abroad for sponsorship to represent TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO at an international tournament. So don't all of a sudden try to portray yourself as patriotic and proud. You are just another pathetic excuse for a Trinidadian politician. MF Barbados.
National Disgrace Posted: 2009-11-05 02:34:00 AM
Yes, I am proud of my flag! I'd like to see my flag flying high in many more places. But this legacy national flag is nothing more than a disgrace and a blatant sign of disrespect to the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago... AGAIN. There is absolutely no justification for the exorbitant costs incurred from the purchase and installation of this flag. Furthermore, Minister Hunt should never insult the people's intelligence by mentioning the youth of this nation can now 'look inward at our heroes ..., instead of the Paris Hiltons'. Rubbish-to the highest order! We don't need a multi-million dollar flag to achieve a sense of national pride. What will make us proud is when we feel deep down within the core of our beings that the government is concerned with the well-being of its citizens; when we see hospitals being equipped with facilities (beds, dialysis machines, H1N1 vaccines) so that tax-payers feel comfortable their monies are being channeled in areas that will benefit them...fixing roads in dire need of repairs; pipe-borne water and electricity for those without; housing; And crime? I want my freedom to walk the streets whenever and wherever I like without fear of being attacked by criminal elements who, by measure of a dysfunctional police and justice system are allowed to roam freely. Perhaps when all these relevant issues are addressed, I will take pride in my country and government and then maybe, just maybe....a $2M flag can be justified. Until then, I am ashamed!
Does Gary care? Posted: 2009-11-05 06:06:00 AM
$2 million may not seem to be much money from the point of view of Gary hunt. But to a child in need of specialised surgery in the USA its a life line. Government has failed such children. Then again does Gary even care? K. Ramnarine
and the nonsense continues........ Posted: 2009-11-05 06:09:00 AM
Sure Gary, you live in La La Land. You obviously don't read the newspaper and watch the news. The votes last night about the breakdown of the cost of the flag clearly shows 70% of the majority of people are not satisfied. I assure you, most people in TnT tune in to the 7pm news rather than facebook. I don't know what to say again bout government spending and their lame excuses. Out of touch with real society. What a Shame.
Wave your flag Posted: 2009-11-05 06:10:00 AM
Well we are a country that like to wave flag so what else will the minster do but make the bigeest flag to wave know to mankind. They should put it in the guniness book of records. Two million for a flag with additional maintance of 54,000.00 TTD evry quarter so approve this in the budget. National pride is not in a flag but in the behaviour of people and whats in there heart. Why not ask all the trinis that migrate to other countries what is national pride. we as a people only of national pride when we live in some elses country. What a waste of money. wave your flag wave your flag.
Whats the fuss Posted: 2009-11-05 07:42:00 AM
Everyday people in this country are losing their jobs, some families can't even provide food on the table for their children to go to school. Why not invest the money into helping the poor? I have national pride and I don't need to look at a flag to have it Mr. Minister. Take a walk in Laventille and the Beetham and ask the question instead of going Cascade. PNM Smarten up before we all perish.
Only in T & T Posted: 2009-11-05 02:42:00 AM
Once again the government have to be "congratulated" 2 million dollars spent on a national flag and a pole, with crime on the rise, deplorable health sector, bad roads, rising cost of living, people protesting for basic necessities and the list goes on.......and.....on to top it all the minister have the audacity to go on public television and defend this wanton spending of tax payers money. That is T&T for you?
Remove this man immediately Posted: 2009-11-05 02:43:00 AM
This is a clear example of "WRONG and STRONG". Well what did you really expect from the PNM.. sense? Mr. Hunt I have a good idea where you can put that pole.
The Story of $2M Flag Posted: 2009-11-05 01:17:00 AM
I am a concerned citizen and i'm appalled at the utter nonsence this government squander tax payers $ on, and to top that of, justifying that with a such lame explaination. I want to know if that money could not have gone to improving the basic necessity; ensuring that persons in both urban & rural areas have acess to water, health care facilities, flooding alleviated, or even reduction in food prices and employment rates. This government tends to be blinded to the real issues of this country and continues to be squandering at poor peoples expense, while they enjoy the luxury. Oh my God put a hand, what's next. Do we have to get the man off the street to run this country, or allow this government to continue to treat its people who voted them into office with neglect.
What is the Fuss Posted: 2009-11-05 02:51:00 AM
Our Government spends $ 2 million on a National Flag while our hospitals are short of beds and drugs, our schools are in need of extensive repairs and the list goes on, and yet the Minister of Sports is trying to justify this. I wonder how stupid they think we are.It's our taxpaying money that is being squandered here.
WTF? (What's The Fuss) Posted: 2009-11-05 02:53:00 AM
WHAT is the fuss? How about the wastage of taxpayers monies in such a frivolous and ultimately useless manner? How about the lack of concern as to what the country is screaming about, with regards to provision of basic facilities, job losses etc, on the premise that there is not enough money? Well, we really do like it T&T!
What's the fuss?? Posted: 2009-11-05 01:24:00 AM
Clueless is what these politicians are. So out of touch! Think about the ordinary man who pays his taxes to see it wasted like that. It's just sad
Maintaining clean toilet facilities at the Hasely Crawford Stadium at all times. Posted: 2009-11-05 06:31:00 AM
Money and Staff is required to keep clean at all times and to maintain the Toilet Facilities at the Stadium. In addition to clean floors and clean toilet bowls there must be toilet paper available,soap for washing hands, paper towels and blowers to dry hands, and waste bins available. The Toilets must look clean , be clean and smell clean at all times. When the Stadium is in use there must be "On Going" and "Continuous" cleaning of the Toilet Facilities. You just cannot have a beautiful Stadium with a well maintained playfield and have FILTHY TOILETS. The Manager must pay regular visits to the Toilet Facilities to ensure cleanliness.
What is the fuss? Posted: 2009-11-05 06:35:00 AM
The Honourable Minister'S great source of information is FACEBOOK?- "I disagree, you just have to go on Facebook and you will see the somoe of the arguments and support that is there. It has huge support online" Better than that Mr. Minister, you are no better than the people who have heroes such as Paris Hilton, as you said. What a shame!
What is the fuss? Posted: 2009-11-05 08:06:00 AM
The fuss is although having such a flag might be costly, two million seems a bit questionable.
Exasperated Posted: 2009-11-05 03:10:00 AM
Mr. Hunt....there is nothing wrong with spending 2m on a National Flag if the country can afford it AND if there are no other pressing issues that require the funds. This is not the case in Trinidad, where basic amenities such as health care is inadequate and inefficient. It's about priorities, fix the most important things first and then worry about the secondary ones. Anyone with half a brain and a little common sense should be able to figure that out!!!
What is the fuss about Posted: 2009-11-05 01:44:00 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the national flag is put up at 6am and is taken down at 6pm. But the present administration seems to think that they can do what they feel...
The FUSS Posted: 2009-11-05 01:44:00 AM
The only fuzz Mr.Hunt is that it is not your MONEY; it is tax payers money. Why don't you foot the bill if you consider "You cannot put a price on Country's Pride"?
Fuss Posted: 2009-11-05 01:48:00 AM
The fuss Mr. Sports is that the government is ignorant of its priorities. Basic needs are more important that flapping a flag.
flag Posted: 2009-11-05 03:23:00 AM
When we are hungry and when we are thirsty,when we are sick and feel down trodden,we shal find solace in the flag.Thanks to minister Hunt that he has the foresight to curb so much ills in our society that he recomends that when one fully views the Flag,he or she will become immune to hungar and illness.Maybe a few Chinese kites will be the next implementation.Hope the kites will cost less than two{2}million.Stop bleeding the tax payers.
What a response Posted: 2009-11-05 06:54:00 AM
I somehow always seem to be amazed at the comments our honorable ministers make. I don’t know, since when Facebook is a credible source……………………… At this point I’m really not sure if these politicians think the population is so gullible or if they are really that clueless and lack basic common sense………..
FLAG BOY! Posted: 2009-11-05 07:17:00 AM
I have looked upon my flag with PRIDE when held by our sportsmen after their achievement, in which they had no help of a proper sports program to help them towards their goal. I have looked upon my flag with PRIDE when seen as distressed times come and our patriots stand firm as a TRINBAGONIAN against the odds for what they strongly believe in. I now look upon the flag at the stadium and DISGUST is felt in our very being when CRIME, POOR HEALTH SYSTEMS AND THE SPENDING ON SUMMITS WITH A FALSE PROMISE OF RETURNING BENEFITS is being present. And would someone please tell Mr. Hunt that nearly 70% of the people in MORVANT, LAVENTILLE, MALONEY, BEETHAM and so on do not have computers on ready to make the comments which he suggested, and these are the ones affected most by your selfish sense of what a country's PRIDE is!
Are you kidding me? Posted: 2009-11-05 08:56:00 AM
This article shows no regard for the population. That the Minister would go to depths to defend the cost, including a detailed explanation of what went into digging the hole? I wonder if the building would stand up to the forces of nature as well as the flag?
National Pride Posted: 2009-11-05 09:01:00 AM
Is there ANYWAY AT ALL that Mr. Hunt would admit that the 2 million dollars flag is NOT a symbol of national pride??? He supports this by quoting from Facebook...but what about all the condenmation in the newspapers- which is the common man's outlet? When are we going to stop taking ABSOLUTE NONSENSE from this failed, minister, who obviously is so far detatched from the national population that he cares not for the cry of the common man? Bob.
$2 million flag Posted: 2009-11-05 07:32:00 AM
Now you got to be kidding me, this current PNM regime spends the tax payers funds without any regard. I left Trinidad 12 years ago and if I remember Cascade was considered a well to do area. How about taking a walk through Laventille, Morvant etc and see what the masses will tell him.
2 million for a flag Posted: 2009-11-05 04:29:00 AM
Just think logically for a moment. Why would this country spent so much money on a flag, when there are so much kids hungry with no food to go to school. Please open food banks for the people after all it's tax payers money we are talking about please someone feed the kids instead. I could understand $10,000 not $2 million.
Mr. Hunte - What is the Fuss? Posted: 2009-11-05 08:09:00 AM
The "fuss" is a reality check. We are lacking in basic essentials in this country. Our health care is in shambles; our protective services lacking in resources and crime is literally killing us or keeping us hostage in our homes; our roads are in disrepair; our children attend schools in ramshackled building and understaff and lacking in resources; etc. And you have to audacity to ask us what the fuss is all about. Our country is in turmoil and looking at a flag will not make us patriotic, but rather question where is this government's priority. As citizens of T&T we are a proud people, and no one can question the pride we have in our country and people. We hire you politicians to govern our country and what we are seeing is your disloyalty to your employers, the citizens of this nation. We are at a loss to try and understand the twisted manner in which this government is operating.
What is the fuss? Posted: 2009-11-05 03:15:00 AM
Minister, the fuss is that the two million dollars would have bought a water tank for every famuily in Paramin who survive on two-twelve hundred gallon water tank. You know what is national pride? when people in our country have access to the basic services! national pride is when people don't have to protest for water and good roads, national pride is when our people start to care about one another and stop killing one another, national pride starts with you Minister and your government; the 2mn dollar flag is not a viable substitute.
The minister was misleading Posted: 2009-11-05 08:15:00 AM
An investment is where mosr then likely you do get or strongly expect to get returns. That flag give absolutely no returns to the youth of our nation or any citizen. The minister told us and yes even on facebook that the "cost of the flag" was $18,000.00. He knew very well the way we speak in Trinidad and Tobago, when we aks the "cost of the flag" we meant the entire or total cost. He also very well knew that people in general are not pleased that the "over all cost of the FLAG PROJECT" was 2 million heance the reason why he had to get technically smart with us. Like the rest this Minister is not trustworthy, misleading and has also stollen the future of the youth as they continue to plunder and exploit national money.
FLAG OF SHAME Posted: 2009-11-05 08:30:00 AM
This won't be the first nor the last PNM Minister to dig a deeper hole fuh his 2 MILLION dollar flag. By opening his mouth again he has proven that he and his PNM are ignorant, incompetent and totally unaware of the reality that has become TnT under this PNM.
WHAT IS THE FUSS? Posted: 2009-11-05 08:30:00 AM
The fuss is my brother is waiting since September to get on the list for Chemo/Radiation Therapy @ the St James Center..THAT IS THE FUSS
Spend on cloth Posted: 2009-11-05 05:08:00 AM
But not help poor children who suffering or the poor citizens. You all will reap the rewards later on. This country is a waste as heard and seen because of the people who wants to be in power and not doing what they were put there to do but spend the citizens money.
WHAT IS THE FUSS? Posted: 2009-11-05 03:41:00 AM
The PNM continues to demonstrate squandermia and their callous attitude towards the nation. This Minister lacks leadership, just other another misfitin government
WHAT IS THE FUSS? Posted: 2009-11-05 03:41:00 AM
The PNM continues to demonstrate squandermia and their callous attitude towards the nation. This Minister lacks leadership, just other another misfitin government
Where do we unearth these characters from? Posted: 2009-11-05 03:44:00 AM
The PNM Government must be given a special lifetime award for foisting on the hapless population these honourable and brilliant individuals as our current Minister of Sport. He is just another misfit in the PNM minister-processing plant! Where do they get these characters from? Heaven help us!
Flag & Flag pole Posted: 2009-11-05 04:02:00 AM
The "fuss" is when you have people dying in this country due to a wanting health sector and high cost of living yet you support the spend of 2 million dollars for a "flag and flag pole".
what is the fuss Posted: 2009-11-05 09:04:00 AM
HAHAHA i just have to laugh. Minister Hunt what sort of example are you sending to the young people. The government is telling us to save and this is the kind of example that you are displaying. Like i said hahahah
Idiocy... Posted: 2009-11-05 09:05:00 AM
Nothing more need be said. HR, Toronto
Flag Posted: 2009-11-05 05:41:00 AM
To the Governement of Trinidad and Tobago.....you are spending my hard earn money in the wrong avenue. Is this really necessary at this time? I work extra hours everyday to make ends meet and pay all my taxes and bills on time. My money should not be wasted like this. Get your act together my government or pass the responsibilty to a party who will take care of the people of Trinidad and Tobago.
Someone is giving us a six for a nine on this deal Posted: 2009-11-05 04:12:00 AM
2 Million dollars for a flag?
What is the Fuss Posted: 2009-11-05 09:15:00 AM
Why should any flag cost 2 million? Come on you could have found something better to spend it on, for example, better medical equipment for the hospital, even computers for the kids in school. I could go on and on and find hundreds of things that the money could have being spent on! A large flarge woth 2 million verses a small flag worth $5 isn't going to change someone's mind and give them any more pride! I am not sure who is giving the okay for these purchases but someone must be held accountable for the vast spending of citizen hard working money! come one people, rise up and let yopur voices be heard!
Why would any right thinking person spend that kind of money on a flag? Posted: 2009-11-05 04:16:00 AM
This is totally unacceptable from Manning and his government knowing our people need food and bed in the hospitals.
WAT D FUSS ? Posted: 2009-11-05 04:26:00 AM
What is the fuss two million dollars could do a whole lot. One that could take a whole lot of homeless people off the street or up grade the hospitals, schools or fix the pot holes. That what the fuss about. So many thing that money could use for. Airborne Trini.
Overspending Posted: 2009-11-05 10:59:00 AM
I am extremely disappointed by the approval of such funds for that flag and the blatant "don't care attitude" of the Minister. Many small and upcoming sporting groups and individuals go without sponsorship for representing TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO but yet it is okay to spend $2mil on a flag... HELP the young and aspiring athletes... that's where the NATIONAL PRIDE come's from.
hmmmm?????? Posted: 2009-11-05 04:36:00 AM
Worthy investment? So children can look at the flag and be reminded of heroes? Are there hungry children in the country? Could the money have gone into a community development program? Into the educational system? Stop being ridiculous and creating foolish jobs for yourselves and geniunely invest in community programs that children can be REALLY learn from and be reminded of the heroes that came before them...like their parents, grandparents, community leaders.
The Fuss is... Posted: 2009-11-05 09:54:00 AM
The erection of these monuments are reflective of monumental wastage on the part of the Minister, and his ministry. It is reflective of a ministry that has lost its way, and now relies on overpriced landmarks as its legacy, rather than raising the standard of sport or the aspirations of young people. It is reflective of the dearth of ideas generated from the ministry's intellectuals and advisors.And according to a former public servant, it is reflective of a Minister who is "clueless".
What is the fuss? Posted: 2009-11-05 09:58:00 AM
An audit needs to be conducted in this Minister's ministry, when all the other Ministries are advised to control spending. This minister does not see a fuss in spending $2 million dollars for a flag in today's economy. We could have all shared the same pride as he does with our flag flying in the stadium, at a much more efficient cost
What's the Fuss!!!!!! Posted: 2009-11-05 04:58:00 AM
Facebook and Cascade.... hmmmm... You think the parents of the children who are seeing the "fuss" have the luxury of Facebook and lives in Cascade.... that really indicates how much you are in tune with the General Public! Adding insult to injury.
What is the fuss? Posted: 2009-11-05 06:39:00 AM
No fuss, but if the PNM government can easily find $2 million dollars in spare change, maybe they can spare some change as well, to help us get some beds and medicine in our hospitals, or maybe equip our police force to better standards, or what the heck, fix some of the potholes we have everywhere, that wrecks my car as I drive to work everyday to pay taxes, which in turn pays their salaries
2 Million $ Flag Posted: 2009-11-05 10:14:00 AM
What's the big fuss, at least the flag will be around for a few years. Nobody is talking about the millions in chartered planes that Manning is riding in style on a weekly basis
Fuss, commotion, protest, fret, you name it... Posted: 2009-11-05 10:24:00 AM
The Prime Minister keeps reminding us to tighten our belts, while his subordinate spent $2 million dollars on a flag. Not to cause any misunderstanding here, our flag flying high is in indeed our pride, but spending $2 million dollars for a flag, is not pride, but a national disgrace and shame. Why? Although seemingly oblivious to the PNM government, we could have acquired a flag, and still have money left over from that $2 million to spend on some of our nation's interests that is in a state of disrepair.
What is the fuss? Posted: 2009-11-05 10:39:00 AM
PNM government's Ego - Immeasurable Our Nation's Public Services - Derelict Gary Hunt's Credit Card - Priceless
Monster Flagpole pricing information Posted: 2009-11-05 10:50:00 AM
The Monster Flagpole site, referenced below prices a 150' (exposed height) flag pole at US$21,450. This is a far cry form the design and supply of the ’monster flag pole’ quoted at TT$932,400 in this article. http://www.monsterflagpoles.com/products.html
how much is spent on crime? how is the flag helping the innocent people that are dying everyday. Posted: 2009-11-05 05:55:00 AM
now, that a big deal!!!
What is the fuss? Posted: 2009-11-05 07:29:00 AM
I live in the country, and i spent most of last night awake because i had no electricity (this happens at least once a week)and had to comfort an irritable two year old. The fan wasn't working so mosquitoes bit us constantly, the environment i live in isn't maintained properly by the government. Therefore i have to make sure that i have money put aside in the event my baby gets sick and i have to seek private medical attention because i'm afraid to go to the hospital. I had to call an electrician this morning to fix my appliances that was damaged by the power outage. If that's not enough, last week i carried my car for alignment, this is done often because of the unavoidable pot holes we drive through daily, not to mention the tyers that are often replaced as well. In my area we get pipe borne water once a week and a complaint had to be made else we would still be without. Yet after all this i look at the front page this morning to see you, Mr. Minister asking "what is the fuss?" You walk around in Cascade, when was the last time their taps ran dry?!!??
national Flag Posted: 2009-11-05 12:34:00 AM
If this is the level of intelligence being displayed by our "leaders", we are in serious trouble..
same foolishness Posted: 2009-11-05 11:07:00 AM
the erection of the flag costing $2M as opposed to the flag alone costing $18,000 is still evading the main issue. Which is why this large sum of money could not have been better channeled. To supporting national teams of various sports, improving community sporting facilities, providing security at school sporting event etc. Seems like we get answers in stages maybe next week these topics will be addressed
WHAT IS THE FUSS? Posted: 2009-11-05 11:20:00 AM
The fuss is that it's difficult to"stomach" the reality that people who are trusted to handle the country's money is so nonchalant.It's either you are are fooled very easily,or you are blantantly corrupt.No one in their right mind, will take someone else's money and throw it away like that and expect them to live.This is not just theft,this is "murder","kidnapping","treason" and "escape"from prison.In other words this is the most major crimes wrapped-up in one flag.Shame on you,Mr.Minister.Foreigners continue to fool these Ministers so very,very easily.The fuss,Sir,is,here is the CoP and DPP in this matter?Aubert Modeste
flag bearer Posted: 2009-11-05 11:32:00 AM
Gary Hunt how about fixing all the bad fields in Trinidad and adequately getting new basketball courts around the country built so the youth can stay off the streets and set up youth sports leagues to teach the next Darren Ganga or Dwight York to perform. How about modern track to built adjacent to schools so the youth can now have a place to practice and start youth running and sprinting in Trinidad throughtout all schools. Ah getting tired of third place or not even showing at meets. Look ahead man to the English Olympics. Take a page out of Jamaica when it comes to sprinting!
The Furor and the Flag Posted: 2009-11-05 1:08:00 PM
Why such a fuss?Emperor Bokassa spent millions in the impoverished Congo to create a Louis X1V style for his grand coronation!Who really cares about basic needs i.e food, clean water, medical care, public safety etc when we can revel in pomp and pageantry? I say more palaces, Bombardier jets,blimps (that do nothing)and summits!Come on people,you need national pride!Get something and wave!
nice Posted: 2009-11-05 08:09:00 AM
I LOVE THE FLAG!!!!!!!!! PNM FOREVER.......
$2M FLAG Posted: 2009-11-05 09:09:00 AM
Food, Rent, Mortgage,Electric bills, water bills, land taxes, transportation,bad roads, crime, medical bills,school bills and the list goes on and on. But T&T does only talk, they don't march. Cause come election ministers like this crazy flagman and the minister who holding the crime portfolio and who just get a bright dream the other day that is repeat offenders committing most of the crime in the country will be voted right back into power.They getting a FREE PAYCHECK FROM taxpayers money and when they finish bleeding the national treasury of the monies they getting, they will jump on a plane and dissappear with they and their children to some country abroad. And guess what when they go abroad, not even a factory will employ them. Instead T&T prefer to pay them BIG BUCKS to do NUTTIN.Enjoy your life Trinis in your so-called sweet paradise. Remember, corruption and evil abound when good men stay silent. TEO TRINI
What's the fuss? Posted: 2009-11-05 12:55:00 AM
Of course he doesn't see what the fuss is about but he'll find out soon enough...
flag Posted: 2009-11-05 07:55:00 AM
Why would Minister Hunt worry cost, his leader taught him that it is the tax payers money, and his co-worker said when we need more to pay for flag's,houses, cars etc all we need to do is increase taxes.
Promoting National Pride?? Posted: 2009-11-05 3:09:00 PM
Mr Minister, I suggest you read these comments rather than check out facebook! You walked around Cascade and nobody said anything adverse....hmmm??
$2M flag Posted: 2009-11-05 08:42:00 AM
Can someone explain how in God's name a flag can cost $2m? That's like $10M CND I think everyone should be in the flag business, and What's the Fuss? What an insult! I bet he'd "fuss" if it was coming out of his pocket EMG
What's the fuss Posted: 2009-11-05 09:05:00 AM
For the PNM cabinet ministers two million taxpayers dollars is chicken feed, since they can spend without accountability, they learn from the best, their leader
Fussing because you are insulting our intelligence Posted: 2009-11-05 2:14:00 PM
Initially, I heard the GH say the flag was 2 million, then I heard a raiddo say it cost 15,000.00 and not 18,000 as stated above. Now the Minister is once again saying the cost was in fact 2 million. I feel insulted by this minister once again because he evidently thinks we are all ignorant. So what if there is FB support. We, the people are saying MR MINISTER, IT COST TOOOO MUCH.
What is the Fuss? Posted: 2009-11-05 2:22:00 PM
The fuss is about a waste of our money Mr Hunt. The people demand that you take back that flag and the pole and get a refund. We will get some of the same polyester and nylon and have some guys cut some bamboo and put the nations flag up for lets say a thousand dollars. With the remaining one million, nine hundred ninety-nine thousand we would buy some H1N1 vaccines and pay for research to find a cure for dengue, or exterminate all the mosquitoes; and maybe start construction on a new hospital in Cedros or Point Fortin. Now that's sure to bring some national pride, and would make us save face, and not make us look like some stupidees to the rest of the world. And while you're on your way to the Refund line, you could have Martin Joseph join you and tell him to take back that worthless blimp. And Mr Manning you don't need any additional center of performing arts attached to the mansion. You already in hot water for the ridiculous price you paid for the golden draperies!

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