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UP IN SMOKE
Govt pulls back on harsh cigarette penalties


Faced with strong opposition to the draconian measures contained in the Tobacco Control Bill, Government yesterday relaxed some of the prohibitions and rolled back some of the harsher penalties.

Health Minister Jerry Narace in winding up in debate in the Senate yesterday said he was backing down with regret and that it bothered him to have to concede on some of the points.

He said the domestic worker was being put at risk as the children in the homes, in conceding that home could not be defined as a workplace, except where it is used for the purpose of ’manufacture, distribution and trade’ of tobacco products.

He said the amendments came in the interest of getting the legislation passed.

Government also removed the ban on sale of single cigarettes which would be affected small vendors and the low income smoker.

It also slashed the penalties-for a number of offences-prohibition on sales by minors, on public displays of tobacco products and on the sales of tobacco products in certain places.

The penalty for these offences, on summary conviction, was reduced from a fine of $100,000 to $50,000 for the first offence; from $200,000 to $100,000 for the second offence and $300,000 to $100,000 and imprisonment for nine months for the third offence.

Upon conviction on indictment (in the High Court), the fine has been reduced from $500,000 and $200,000 and imprisonment of one year.

However, Government proceeded with the legislation and its basic offences despite the complaints of Independent Senators.

Attorney General John Jeremie in defending the legislation, said there were ’very powerful interests at work’ in the tobacco industry.

Referring to this lobby as the ’tobacco complex’, he said years before the Tobacco Amendment bill came to Parliament, there were interest groups preparing to oppose it.

’This complex is as powerful as the complex which drives the war machines in certain parts of the world,’ he said, adding that he was not saying this lightly.

Jeremie, who taught at the University of the West Indies, said one of his students ended up in a tobacco company.

’And her primary purpose-and this was a directive given to her by her superiors-was to monitor and track what was going on in terms of domestic legislative activity ... and she wanted to know what was going on in terms of anti-tobacco legislation,’ he said, adding that she knew he was Attorney General.

Independent Senator Gail Merhair noted that while the consent age for sex was 16, the age for smoking was 18.

’Is Government saying it is okay to have consensual sex, but not to smoke?’ she asked.

Merhair, who noted that her office is situated next to a Montessori school and behind the El Socorro taxi stand, wanted to know how the clause which forbids smoking within 15 metres of a school would be enforced.

Noting that many times persons waiting for a taxi smoked right in front of her driveway, she asked whether she would be liable as defined in Clause 12 (3) which states that the manager or owner or lessess of the place where the contravention takes place who ’authorised or acquiesced in the act’, was personally liable. She also stated that she was against imprisonment as a penalty.

Her colleague Basharat Ali, noting the ban on self-service displays and on public displays, said whereas condoms were at one time the ’under the counter item’, this would now be tobacco products.

He said Government should not deprive old people in homes of the right to smoke ’in the last years’.

’Are you trying to save their lives?’ he asked.

He added that the same relaxation of any ban should apply to Death Row prisoners as is done in other jurisdictions.

Members of the Senate were up to press time still in committee stage trying to have the bill passed.


 Comments: UP IN SMOKE
Smoke this! Posted: 2009-11-18 00:00:00 AM
With crime so high, all they can think about is adding more stress to the average man. Why not ban liquor from public and sporting events, liquor is also very unhealthy and is also the number one reason for major accidents and deaths on the nations road, also it causes liver and brain ailments, and in most instances of domestic violence, alcohol is involved, so lets deal with the real issues and stop trying to follow the United States and get our own house in order. Smokers are being treated like they have a deadly virus, and for thousands of years people have been smoking, so whats the big deal now? Come lets get real and deal with the Crime.
SMOKING IN BARS IN TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO. Posted: 2009-11-17 10:52:00 PM
Most people have commented on their experiences and lives in the americas and u.k. but they dont take in that bars in these countries are all closed doors because of the cold and airconditioned in summer..so no smoking inside is understood.. but in trinidad and tobago most ordinary bars and clubs are all open doors and windows. except for some that have aircondition. so think ???,,,a bar with open doors and windows is not the same as those that are closed up. so to apply the same laws and fines is an unfair and misunderstood thing to do..any clear thinking human being can see that there is a bais and selfishness by non somkers. i am in a bar with all doors and windows open and cant have a cigarette with my beer or my drink. i might as well stay home and smoke "weed" . it is easy to fool some people all the time..but you cant fool all of the people all of the time. dont stand next to the flame if you you dont want to get the smoke..open doors and windows ..remember this is trinidad. not all these U.S. BRITISH and CANADIAN laws...stay where you are if you dont like it. nobody forced anyone to go to the bars and clubs.
Revenue Based Posted: 2009-11-18 01:41:00 AM
These legislations are new ways the government is using to raise much needed revenues. If curtailing' smoking for health reasons was the objective, the government would have simply outlawed the sale of cigarettes and shut down WITCO.
What a shame Posted: 2009-11-18 03:47:00 AM
The government is trying to give non-smokers a better quality of life knowing the ill effects of smoking and it hurts me to see people coming up with those rediculous arguments not to ban smoking. What about the rights of the non-smoker. Why must I have to endure second-hand smoke.
fines for purchase ofa single cigarette Posted: 2009-11-18 05:42:00 AM
Its too hard for an old man who has been smoking a single cigarette for his lifetime to stop that vice immediately. For his/her lifetime,I am sure they were unable to buy a pack of cigarettes so they buy a single one at a time to fulfill their habit. Are the health minister trying to take away that little pleasure from these old people? Please Mr. Minister have a little heart nah.....
Apparently smoking is worse than Drunk Driving Posted: 2009-11-17 11:19:00 PM
With the breathalyzer test coming for drunk drivers and an initial fine of 8k, second fine of 15k etc, it seems it is much more dangerous to smoke and to sell cigarettes. While I do not condone smoking and in the long run, it is just as fatal as drunk driving, there seems to be a disparity in the penalties for the individual crimes.
Freedoms Posted: 2009-11-18 01:05:00 AM
As we move toward a more controlled society and as we are continually forced to surrender our liberties, we are being lead to believe that the removal of our civil liberties is for our own good. The ban on smoking in public places is a poor attempt to copy similar bans in sensible first world countries. We have taken a goot thing too far. What is lacking here is choice. By removing our ability to choose whether we wish to socialise in public and smoke, we remove important civil liberties. Smoking is a choice. To significantly reduce the access to this choice is unreasonable. But I guess it is better for us to keep our police force busy with arresting sixty year olds in old age homes than learning how to manage the rampant corruption that is present in Trinidad today.
Smoker rights?!? Posted: 2009-11-18 03:58:00 AM
I dont understand these people. Smoking KILLS and they are wrangling about a person's RIGHT to smoke? What about the rights of those who dont want to smoke or even inhale as a second-hand smoker? A person's health and the right to clean air should always trump the need of a smoker- if you need to smoke, smoke at home! JJ
Ban cigarette now Posted: 2009-11-18 07:37:00 AM
Here were go again. Old people say when something is not good get rid of it. The government is saying that smoking and the selling of cigarette is not good, then lets ban cigarette totally. I now asked ,why is it so hard for the government to ban cigarette? I will like Minister Jerry Narace to answer this question. Stop the crap, i say lets ban cigarette.
Property tax Posted: 2009-11-18 09:09:00 AM
So this can be rolled back but not the property tax????

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